The toxicity in here is out of control.

I want to address a few things I've been seeing that has been annoying me about the extremely vocal and aggressive handful that have been downvoting practically anything positive.

And yes, I'm a backer; I will absolutely not let someone downplay my opinion because I backed something I was excited for. You people who have been denigrating others for being backers are picking absolutely bizarre battles since this game wouldn't even exist without backers. Me being a backer doesn't make my opinion more valuable than yours, mind you - I just want to point out that I am NOT attacking you for your backer status regardless of what it is.

So let's get into it:

1: The story being mid or "kiddish"

2: Bugs and issues

3: DLC

4: Those of you who are "Suikoden fans" and then eviscerate Eiyuden

1: Suikoden 1 rated middlingly to low for the fandom for a decade, easily, and did not rate well when it came out. It was knocked for having a tepid storyline, bugs, too many useless characters, and for not having a solid identity as a game. You can adore S1 and S2 as much as you want, but historically, it was not appreciated the way it currently is until more recently. Many of the comments for S1 could be mirror images of the comments people leave for E1 and vice versa. I would be more than happy to dig up pages and pages of fan reviews from the early and mid 2000s on Suikoden fan forums and paste as many of these as you all need. There are newer retrospective reviews that have some positive things to say, but even then, it's not a ton of glowing reviews and it doesn't negate the fact that S1 DOES NOT rate that well over the years.

2: Bugs are going to happen and yes, some of them when the game first came out was bad, but there are so few amongst you who routinely complain that show any evidence of checking on your own if updates have happened or not. Instead, you're just belligerent towards community managers and anyone trying to talk positively about the game's performance. I won't even ask "why not check to see if there's patches that fix your problems?" because I know that's not really what the goal is; the goal is to just be bitter.

3: The DLC has been one of the most mind numbingly painful things to see people be nasty about because in one post, the vocal bitter people will complain and snark about bugs and then demand that the DLC come out NOW. I'm sorry, did you want the DLC to work or not? Would you rather it get pushed out and work, or would you prefer it now and have more bugs to complain about?

4: The fans who hype Suikoden up and then come to spew hatred all over Eiyuden are infuriating, because it's clear all that matters is nostalgia. The dev team doesn't matter, the journey of how Suikoden became a good series (and did not start as one) doesn't matter, and the fact that this was a dear wish of people who are responsible for Suikoden doesn't matter to the mean, bitter people that flood this subreddit with negativity. S1 had its issues and S2 is where it began to shine as a series. Stop trying to run people off of Eiyuden before we can have an E2!

I'm going to close this out with the fact that I absolutely know there are going to be a handful of people that come in and immediately start regurgitating all the usual mean stuff they normally do and try to throw in as many "well actually"s as possible and I just want to say that I hope y'all find things that make you happy instead of just crapping on a game that was someone's dream.

You can have issues with the game, you can have feedback, you can even just outright not like the game - all of that is completely your prerogative and you're welcome to it. But holy crap, PLEASE, just turn down the vitriol and the negativity. People can't even have a positive conversation in here without getting nuked by people who seem to make it their business to come in here and interrupt with something nasty.