Tournament in early July. Looking for ways to improve this list.
Hi Wargamers,
I have a tournament in July and would like some critique on my current list. I need to paint a few things before the Tournament so would like to try to settle on a list before painting. I am fairly open to changing Legions etc but would like to stick to; World Eaters, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion or Black Legion since that's what I have predominantly painted (and they're my favourites at the moment).
My plan with what I have is fairly simple I imagine. the 2 smaller squads of Cultists will sit in the far backfield to hold objs/stifle deep strike. The large Cultist blob will move up the center table with the MoP, DA and the Obliterators trying to stay and hold the midfield. The MoP will likely swap out smite for either Delightful Agonies (for the large blob of cultists to become immortal) or for Prescience (for the Oblits) depending on what my opponents have i.e. If they have a LOT of anti-horde - Delightful Agonies, if they have a lot of important/hard to kill units - Prescience.
The Venom Crawlers and Disco Lord will go where needed most and *try* to survive and be annoying, hopefully taking out some priority targets. At the very least, they may take some of the enemy shooting off the Greater Daemon/Prince.
The 2 Marine squads will likely run the flanks for primaries etc. Maybe kill something with their Chaincannons/Combi Plasma if I'm lucky.
The entire Slaanesh Patrol will be trying to get off early charges/counter charges as necessary, likely the Daemonettes will run up the flanks with the Chaos Marine squads as backup and maybe score some board control secondaries. Hopefully they will be fast enough to give me some early board control and allow my inexperience in 9th to be hidden a little bit.
I'm thinking some possible changes could be to swap the Warlord over to the MoP to give the Oblits the Daemonsmith since they will likely survive for 3 to 4 turns every game with the cultist blob as cannon fodder. This may end up giving me more use of Daemonsmith than having it on the Disco Lord? Although it does seem VERY strong on the Disco Lord *if* he does make it into CQC (also would help the Venom Crawlers earn their pts back pretty quickly).
I could also put Insidium on the Disco Lord instead of Techno-venomous Mechatendrils as a friend mentioned, however I don't really see it being as effective as almost guaranteed 3/4 Mortal wounds in CC? The Toughness buff would really only be useful against S7 and S12 weapons (which are few and far between?) Please feel free to prove me as wrong on this as I haven't had too much experience since 5th edition...
My personal concern with this list is that for a list featuring Iron Warriors, it doesn't really have much in the way of effective shooting other than the Oblits. Should I be taking out the Daemon Engines for more shooting and leave the CC to the Daemons and Disco Lord? Should I swap out the Disco Lord for a Daemon Prince if I do end up doing that? MOAR Obliterators and focus on them almost entirely? Thoughts?
Thanks and here's the list.
**++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [75 PL, 12CP, 1,400pts] ++*\*
**+ Configuration +**
**Battle Size [12CP]:** 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
**Detachment Command Cost**
**Gametype:** Matched
**Legion:** Iron Warriors
**+ No Force Org Slot +**
**Dark Disciples [1 PL, 10pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **2x Dark Disciple:** 2x Close combat weapon
**+ HQ +*\*
**Dark Apostle [4 PL, 80pts]:** Blissful Devotion, Illusory Supplication, Mark of Slaanesh
**Lord Discordant on Helstalker [10 PL, 200pts]:** 2. Daemonsmith, Baleflamer, Mark of Slaanesh, Techno-venomous Mechatendrils, Warlord
. **Helstalker:** Techno-virus injector
**Master of Possession [5 PL, 95pts]:** Cursed Earth, Infernal Power, Mark of Slaanesh
**+ Troops +*\*
**Chaos Cultists [9 PL, 130pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **25x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun:** 25x Autogun
. **Cultist Champion:** Autogun
**Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun:** 9x Autogun
. **Cultist Champion:** Autogun
**Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun:** 9x Autogun
. **Cultist Champion:** Autogun
**Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun:** 9x Autogun
. **Cultist Champion:** Autogun
**Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 100pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **Aspiring Champion:** Astartes chainsword, Combi-plasma
. **3x Marine w/ boltgun:** 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. **Marine w/ heavy or special weapon:** Reaper chaincannon
**Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 100pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **Aspiring Champion:** Astartes chainsword, Combi-plasma
. **3x Marine w/ boltgun:** 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades
. **Marine w/ heavy or special weapon:** Reaper chaincannon
**+ Heavy Support +*\*
**Obliterators [15 PL, 315pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
. **3x Obliterator:** 3x Crushing fists, 3x Fleshmetal guns
**Venomcrawler [7 PL, 110pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
**Venomcrawler [7 PL, 110pts]:** Mark of Slaanesh
**++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Chaos - Daemons) [32 PL, -4CP, 600pts] ++*\*
**+ Configuration +**
**Chaos Allegiance:** Slaanesh
**Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]**
**+ Stratagems +**
**Rewards of Chaos (1 Relic) [-1CP]**
**+ HQ +*\*
**Keeper of Secrets [12 PL, -1CP, 230pts]:** Exalted Keeper of Secrets, Hysterical Frenzy, Sinistrous hand, Symphony of Pain, Forbidden Gem
**Syll'Esske, the Vengeful Allegiance [12 PL, 230pts]:** Delightful Agonies, Hysterical Frenzy
**+ Troops +*\*
**Daemonettes [4 PL, 70pts]:** Alluress
. **9x Daemonette:** 9x Piercing claws
**Daemonettes [4 PL, 70pts]:** Alluress
. **9x Daemonette:** 9x Piercing claws
**++ Total: [107 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++*\*